FastTrack on Land 10 is an OSM vector map included ?
Hello,
I'm doing some test with vector maps for hiking track creation with Land 10.
I exported from openstreetmap using Overpass API and imported the .osm file in Land, then I created routing data and saved the map as .mpv. Now FastTrack works but autorouting seems not so smart and sometime to go from A to B it chooses the longest way, I'm still practicing.
I'm wondering if Autoroutes works better using the OSM vector map supplied by Twonav but it is not clear if Land 10 includes or not some routable OSM vector maps. . According to the web site both Premium and Pro plan should include an OSM vector map but I can't find it, all osm maps are raster
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Hello
The route calculation works with a routable OSM map (*.vmap format).
If you have purchased a TwoNav product you have on your account a map like this image but for your country.
I added the *.clay files that I created, they are not provided. These are files that customize the visual aspect of the map and its dynamics (For example the decision to present an object depending on the zoom level).
Either you load this card which is waiting on your account, or you buy it, it's not expensive.
Otherwise it is possible to import a file in *.OSM format on BBIke then convert it to vmap format then you can create a route on this map that includes the latest updates. To do this you need to get an extra script (plugin) that you place in a Land folder.
Exemple..
The map comes from BBBike OSM-> Vmap (by land)
File downloaded from BBBike
After unzip and format convertion by the Land plugin
*.clay is my own customisation
The appearance of the map (colors, shapes, etc.) is a customization made with Land
Best regards
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Hello Thierry,
thanks for tha answer but You are a bit confusing me, consider that I have a Land 8 license and I'm now evaluating Land 10 to see if it's worth to upgrade.
1) I do not see any .vmap maps in my Land10 Pro free TRIAL installation, the only vector map is the sample CatalunyaVect.MPV. Do You mean I should download the OSM .vmap from my account after a real purchase of the license? On top of this I can say that route calculation works also with .mpv maps but very often it chooses wrong routes.
2) How can I create/export a .vmap file ? After importing the .osm in Land, the only vector format I can save are: mpv (twonav vector map),shp (arcview), dgn (microstation). Actually I even do not see .vmap format in the supported map format when I open a map.
3) what's the plugin you mentioned ?
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Hello
1) I do not see any .vmap maps in my Land10 Pro free TRIAL installation, the only vector map is the sample CatalunyaVect.MPV. Do You mean I should download the OSM .vmap from my account after a real purchase of the license?
Or
Or if it is not on your account, it is not in your offer, you must buy it
De plus, je peux dire que le calcul d'itinéraire fonctionne également avec les cartes .mpv mais très souvent, il choisit les mauvais itinéraires.
Yes you have to set fast track and it is not very smart, you have to designate each path to take in the middle of this path
Yes with Land 10 FastTrack works on a mvp map
2) How can I create/export a .vmap file ? After importing the .osm in Land, the only vector format I can save are: mpv (twonav vector map),shp (arcview), dgn (microstation). Actually I even do not see .vmap format in the supported map format when I open a map.
No you need this plugin
Since it works with an MVP you don't need the plugin
Best regards
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Not wanting to be in too much of a hurry, designate the paths (between two connections) one after the other
Example on this relatively dense path network
Colors and appearance are a customization of the card.
Exemple "Pedestrian path" are the pedestrian paths in the city, shown in green in this example
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hello,
The situation should be funny if it wasn't really confusing
I downloaded the free OSM map from my account (there are free OSM map for Pyrenees and Alps) and I found it is a .vmap file.
Funny thing is that Fasttrack doesn't work on this map. The map is marked as Vector map and if I try to edit a warning say it already have routing information but If I try to use fasttrack, an error say that I need a vector map. Even If I recreate the routing info (edit vectorial map/create net information for routing) nothing changes.
Looks like Fasttrack works only with.mpv and no more with .vmap, this means that also on any purchased Osm vector maps it will not work?
Tried to save .vmap as .mpv but it seems it is not possible , do I need the plugin to do this ? Where can I download?
Many thanks
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Hello
No it works, it's a usability issue.
You must have several routable maps open (MVP, Vmap), keep only one open and it will work.
Likewise, if your journey covers two maps, for example Barcelona / Toulouse, it will not work. You need a single map that covers the entire journey and a single routable map in the map tree.
Have best map used
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Try with a more recent map, the one you are using is from 2014!
This is the free map you can download from Twonav, I just downloaded to do a test.
Another strange thing (how many strange things I found...) is that if I try to do "edit vectorial map" on this vmap I get the error "the operation needs a loaded 2d map to work".
I will try to download again the map, maybe it gets corrupted, don't know..
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You did not find anything strange, these are just the consequences of your mistakes and trial and error.
Logically, if you had taken the time to read the tutorial that I linked yesterday (to be downloaded in your native language) you would no longer have all these questions to ask, the tutorial is well done.
A route is a list of points with coordinates (L, G), altitudes and guidance indications.
Land cannot invent this information, it must obtain it,
- The coordinates come from a georeferenced map
- The altitudes from a DEM (altitude map)
- The guidance indications come from a database that contains information on paths, nature, intersections, etc.
If you load a RASTER map it will never work, these maps are just simple images.
In principle, as it is well done when you use Fast Track Land automatically opens a routable map (which contains the database) and an altitude map
Normally if you have purchased Land (that it is not a DIY) TwoNav CompeGps provides for free in your case it is SPAINOSM21Q2 and the DEM map of your country!
So when you launch fast track these maps open by themselves there is nothing to do (Fast track does not work with MVP, Fast Track opened a Vmap but you did not see anything).
If you do not have these maps in your maps directory it is because you have tinkered and done anything. I saw yesterday on your images that it was Wold.dem which was open, the world map of altitudes which proves that you have not understood anything.
In short, install Spain21Q2 in your map directory and the altitude map of your country and it should work since elsewhere it works.
To used Fast track in Spain
Spain DEM
You are starting to get tired, you do not apply what you are advised and you do anything.
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Summary
Start from nothing
New Track open automatically the local DEM in green
And fast track to : Open automatically the local "vmap"
From nothing a blank screen three clicks and it works, and you still haven't understood anything after 15 posts, in your opinion where is the problem? In Land or in your mind?
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Thierry, thanks for still trying to help me but You are not very polite, your comments are completely wrong.
You don't know me but I'm working with gps data and maps since 10 years and work with Land 8 without any problem.
Are you sure that you understood what I was asking ? I do not need a tutorial.
My only problem was to understand the differences between .vmap and .mvp and the question was: why FastTrack works with .mvp and not with a downloaded (and potentially purchased) .vmap ?
Until this is not clear to me I will not buy a vector map from Twonaw.
The only useful information I got from You is that if I buy Land 10 I will get an osm vector map of my country, but if it is a .vmap I still need a solution to this question.
I'm from Italy so It's little use for me to get a map of Spain, I already downloaded a vector map of Alps (more useful for me) and tried to use it, why the hell I should get a map of Spain ?
I NEVER loaded a raster map. As You should see from my screenshot, only one .vmap is loaded BUT when I try to edit it I get the error "need a loaded 2D map to work" what the hell means a 2D map ? Maybe this specific map is corrupted or obsolete, if you are curious you should try to download this map and see what happens.
By the way World_Base_Relief.cwdem was present since first installation, if you do not download yourself any other relief file (and I didn't) "World_Base_Relief.cwdem" is the only file You get.
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Politeness at some point is also up to you to make a minimum effort.
Here it is a user forum no one is required or obliged to help you, so if you continue to not want to make a minimum effort it will stop no one is required to do the impossible and stop telling nonsense.
With so many years of experience of the product you do not know what a Vmap (vector) map or a Raster map is, we understand it by reading your answers, so avoid putting forward this so-called experience that does not exist and it will be a little better it will help you to understand.
I put Spain as an example, you are not able to extrapolate for your country?
This is worrying and serious.
These maps are free, and more precise, for 10 years you have not realized it, that raises questions!
The OSM Italy map is less than €4, so if you are at €4 I can't do anything for you.
Calculating a route on a map in mvp format is not documented by CompeGps TwoNav if you try to trace with fast track on an mvp map Land opens a Vmap map
It's Land 10.3, it works, I'll let you figure it out yourself
From noting create the start of a track with only 3 clicks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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