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    yves andre

    Bonjour,

    J'ai un twonav cross première version et je constate beaucoup de défauts comparativement à mon anima+  (moindre sensibilité, positionnement très fluctuant à l'arrêt...)

    Surtout lorsque je fais une randonnée, le totalisateur est toujours faux alors que lorsque je regarde le fichier gpx tracklog il est assez près de la vérité.

    exemple: 

    aujourdhui randonnée 8.2km

    sur anima+  (ma référence) : 8,196km 141 denivelé

    su cross lorsque je regarde l'activité du jour : 6,369 km 125 de dénivelé

    sur le fichier tracklog téléchargé dans land du cross : 8.3km 142m de dénivelé.

    Merci de me dire si je fais une mauvaise utilisation du cross.

     

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    yves andre

    Le problème que je rencontre ne se situe pas sur le fichier dans le dossier tracklog mais bien sur l'affichage dans le gps (sur mes activités enregistrées) et sur l'affichage lorsque je marche avec une route pré-tracée . La distance n'est pas correcte et toujours inférieure à la réalité (dans ce cas 6,39km alors que la réalité est 8.3km)
    Lorsque je télécharge le fichier enregistré (2023-01-03-134916.....trk) dans le PC avec  LAND les valeurs sont bonnes (8.3km) et identiques à celui enregistré sur anima+.
    J'en déduis donc qu'il y a un bug dans le logiciel.

     

     

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    Uwe B.

    Strange, mine is working fine (Cross SW 5.3). My guess you choose the wrong field definition (2D versus 3D). Need to see your gps*.ini file for the activity to check it further.

    PS: Writing in English since my French is nonexistent and google often changes the translation.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    The software is the same on all models, especially for this aspect!

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    Bernard Perrot

    "J'en déduis donc qu'il y a un bug dans le logiciel."

    Non, sans doute pas, sinon, on aurait tous remarqué la même chose.

    Très probablement, vous avez des réglages (les filtres, les seuils, ...) qui ne sont pas corrects dans le profil utilisé. Ou bien vous n'utilisez pas le bon profil peut-être ?

    Cordialement,

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    yves andre

    Bonjour,

    ci joint les fichiers écrans sur cross, pc avec land et le gps.ini

    Si quelqu'un peut me dire d'ou vient l'erreur je suis preneur.

    Merci par avance

    [Registro]
    Nom_Usuario=Market
    DeviceId=6383-4DMD-CD4P-6947*35
    [Directorios]
    dir_fonts_extended2=/root/TwoNavData/AppData
    Recorded_Tracks4=/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/
    Temporal=/tmp/twonav//
    SpeedCams=/root/TwoNavData/Radars/
    CacheWebMaps=/tmp/twonav/cache/
    IgnoreStoredMD5RemoteData=0
    Maps2=/root/TwoNavData/Maps
    Data=/root/TwoNavData/Data/
    Maps4=/root/TwoNavData/Maps
    Data3=/root/TwoNavData/Data/
    Recorded_Tracks7=/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/
    Temporal2=/tmp/twonav//
    SpeedCams2=/root/TwoNavData/Radars/
    CacheWebMaps3=/tmp/twonav/cache/
    Maps6=/root/TwoNavData/Maps
    Data4=/root/TwoNavData/Data/
    Maps6*1=/root/TwoNavData/Maps
    Temporal2*2=/tmp/twonav//
    [General]
    dir_go_amazon=/root/TwoNavData/Data/
    IsANTPlus=1
    num_idioma=2
    GO_Amazon=0
    MyTwoNavUser=yves.andre3@orange.fr
    MyTwoNavPass=A04C51F72AFFE356C97641AB272D305E24DE5B697497AA7247D4A3D793347F3F
    MyTwoNavToken=
    MyTwoNavName=yves andre
    dir_go_amazon2=/root/TwoNavData/Data/
    ActivitiesDoneCounter=2
    [TiempoReal]
    SetDefaultProfiles4=0
    Total_Odometer=701314.6875000000
    Total_Odometro_B=701227.0625000000
    Append_Odometros=0;701314.7;701227.1;0;0;481585.7;
    CompassCalibration=-1262336.0,-2900512.0,961088.0,-47152.0,37344.0,-13040.0,0,0,0,
    Edad_Piloto=71
    Peso_Piloto=84
    HRM_Rest_Piloto=60
    LocalTimeBias=-3600
    TracklogName=/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/2023-01-03_193544.trk
    LastGPSPosition=A,45.73631331ºN,3.18891166ºE
    Sea_Level_Pressure_INV=0.0009618746
    Sea_Level_Pressure_INV_LastTime=03-JAN-2023 17:02:31
    GpsMode=3
    IsRoutingNow=
    Journey_Identifier=7
    Append_Altura_Maxima=0.0000000000
    Append_Velocidad_Maxima=0.0000000000
    Activated_Alarms=317,21,306,59,383,41,124,650,651,661,652,396,381,397,237,47,
    Color_Lineas_Aux_MovingMap=0x0000FFFF
    Profile=3
    Modo_Altura_Grabacion=3
    HRM_Manual_MaxRest=0
    [Vistas]
    SeeMe=1,   00000,20240628,
    WifiNetworksList=1
    Broadcast2=v1.1,1,30000,0,
    Volumen_Mute=0
    SeeMeDontAskAgainActivated=1
    BrightnessAuto=1
    Brightness=90
    [GPRS]
    M2M=v1.0,300000,1,m2m.orange.es,,,1,
    [Graficas]
    ParamX_Graficas=1
    [Windows]
    UIWindowsScale=2.0000000000
    UIWindowsWidth=480
    UIWindowsHeight=800
    UIPageInitialSteps8=stepShowPageIdioma:never,stepConnectGps,stepConfigureConnectivity:never,stepShowWelcomePage:never,stepShowCompassCalibration:never
    ScreenSaveBatsTimer=0
    Vision_Nocturna=0
    [Balizas]
    Name_Active_WPT_File=Waypoints.wpt
    [Mapa]
    LastTime_Scan_forMaps=05-JAN-2023 13:08:32
    Show_All_Maps=1
    Scan_forMaps_NextTime=0
    DrawMapsShadingRelief=1
    [Files]
    Recent=/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/TALLENDE1.trk,/root/TwoNavData/Maps/FranceTopo.imp,/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/2023-01-03_134916--TALLENDE.trk,/root/TwoNavData/Data/TALLENDE.gpx,/root/TwoNavData/Maps/Spain_OSM_21q2.vmap,/root/TwoNavData/Data/Lanzarote/circuit park.gpx,/root/TwoNavData/Data/lebroc.gpx,/root/TwoNavData/Maps/lan17.rmap,/root/TwoNavData/Maps/cournon.rmap,/root/TwoNavData/Data/ravel.gpx
    Last_Maps=/root/TwoNavData/Maps/FranceTopo.imp
    Last_Track=/root/TwoNavData/Data/Tracklog/TALLENDE1.trk
    [Com]
    ActivateGps=1
    [Sensors]
    SensorsList3=0*0,1,2070,0,50754,1,%
    [ConnectDevices]
    PeripheralActivated=0
    DevicePaired=0
    ShowNotifications=1
    ShowNotification_LostCall=1
    ShowNotification_SMS=1
    [DEM]
    Pintar_Grid_Todo__DEM=1
    Pintar_Curvas_Nivel_DEM=1
    Sombreado_Todo_DEM=0
    Salto_Color_Todo_DEM=500.0000000000
    [Navigation]
    WifiActiveBeforeNavigating=0
    [Coordenadas]
    Modo_Grados_Min_Seg=2
    [Keys]
    ZoomOnPhysicalKeys=2
    KeyPagePreviousShortPress=197.0
    KeyPowerShortPress=551.0
    KeyPageNextShortPress=193.0
    KeyZoomInShortPress=-1.0
    [3D]
    Mode3Dbutton3=1
    [Units]
    Unidad_Distancia=0
    [Colores]
    Hypsometric_Colors=lowcontrast.hipcolrs
    [Campos]
    Colorear_2=6
    [Tracks]
    Navigated_Track_2Colors=1
    Navigated_Track_Int_Color

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Bonjour,

    Si cette trace est sur le Cloud, pourrait tu mettre le lien vers cette trace qu'on puisse regarder?

    Cdlt

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Si tu peut envoyer ta trace par mail (Regarde ta boite aux lettres), afin de l'analyser..

     

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    Goran Sepic

    Hi to all! I have a similar situation. I tested using my Cross Plus 5.3 fw and Coros Vertih 2 watch. Coros was on my left hand, and Cross Plus was on my chest. Here are both gxp files. The one from Coros is the right one (because I know the route and used Garmin GPSMAP 66st to check earlier) and the one from Cross Plus is the problematic one. On Cross Plus I used GPS+Glonass satellite systems.

    Regards Goran.

     

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    Goran Sepic

    and

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    Can you put a link to the file saved on the CLOUD to analyze it.

    Best regards

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    Monday I did a hike where there is also a distance incident, I miss 2 km..

    1 km after the start, I realized that the location accuracy was bad, which is not usual.

    Looking at the status of the satellites, I noticed that the GPS was tracking more Glonass satellites and Gallileo, only one GPS Satellite, was being tracked which is not normal.

    Following this observation, I reset the tracking of the satellites, the GPS returned to a situation of mainly tracking the satellites of the GPS constellation. Following this action, the accuracy which had slipped to 35 m for no apparent reason returned to 7 to 8 m.

    Usually the accuracy is under 5 m.

    Let's hope it's not a consequence of the conflict in Ukraine.

    This did not happen again on the next activity in Trail mode, although the accuracy did not return below 5m

    This is a case to follow.

    Best regards

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    On the object trace of the link you provided, the GPS does not "see" enough satellites, it takes at least 4..

    Was he in the open? Or in a pocket? Or a Backpack?

    The GPS antenna must see the sky all the time.

    Anormal tracking :

     

    Good tracking

     

    Best regards

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    On the image below two identical traces recorded one on Monday, the other on Tuesday.

    Recorded during tests that I do, to understand the behavior of the GPS when following a complex road book, in this case there are 5 loops. So I follow strictly the same itinerary, the Road Book having been designed differently, I still have two tries to do.

    On the first, the mileage count is wrong, 1.5 km are missing.

    The question why?

    One track was run in hiker mode and the other in runner mode, so the main difference is speed.

    In hiking mode the speed is always relatively low, and according to the recording configuration the GPS considers that there is no more movement below a speed threshold and it forces the speed to 0 (There are many points in this type of trace which have zero speed)

    I therefore compared the number of points at zero speed on the two recorded traces.

    The GPS was held all the way, in the open air and the top of the screen towards the sky (the antenna is at the top), so the GPS can see the sky perfectly.

    The hike was done at a brisk pace.

    In the case of hiking, 365 records out of 2988 have zero speed, (12.2%)

    In the case of the "race" only 8 points out of 1556 have zero speed (0.5%)

    The difference in the number of recordings is explained by the configuration of the recording of the trace which is different between the two configurations.

    The difference in distance is 14%, which supports the hypothesis that this difference in distance display is probably due to not taking into account points with zero speed.

     

    Best Regards

     

     

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    Goran Sepic

    Hi Thierry,

     

    It was on my chest (in the pocket of my running backpack). Sometimes, it was upside down, and sometimes with Twonav description upwards. I run in a small forest. But my Coros watch track was perfect, and its antenna was much smaller than Cross Plus's. Regards, Goran.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hi, Goran

    I'm not saying the opposite, it seems that the CROSS has a weakness on this side (sensitivity).

    Either you deal with this weakness or you have to get closer to the after-sales service.

    Here in the user space the goal is to try to propose solutions.

    All GPS providers, regardless, recommend keeping the GPS in view of the sky.

    The signal received by the antenna of a GPS is extremely weak, it does not take much for it to lose contact.

      On your second track it could not follow the satellites correctly there must have been a big mask "all the same", on the other hand on your first track it can be interesting to observe how many points were recorded at zero speed.

    I also have a "watch" but the track of my Trail 2 is always more accurate than that of the watch.

    CDLT

    CDLT

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    Uwe B.

    @yves andre:

    I tried it with a track recorded on sunday and it recorded fine (7km, Walking). Land differed probably 100m, depending on the Land version I use.  

    Please upload the 2 differing tracks (Anima+&Cross) to let us have a look at it.

    Regarding the gps*.ini:

    I meant the inifile which is corresponding to the activity you used.

    gps00.ini is the first activity ini file, gps003.ini ist the fourth activity ini file. Please delete your logindata und your serial from the gps.ini you uploaded here, since this could be used to hack you account:

    MyTwoNavUser=
    MyTwoNavPass=

    PS: I know there is a significant glitch in the trackrecording of the newer Twonav versions (4-5), which only affects activites with slow speed. Some filters like record every x seconds or every x meters are not reliable used by the device if the speed is under 6km/h (I think). This was reported to Twonav but I'm not sure if and when they will repair it. And without a look at your tracks I can't tell if this bug is related to yours. But the bug I'm writing about results in recording longer distances compared to tracks recorded with older versions.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Some filters like record every x seconds or every x meters are not reliable used by the device if the speed is under 6km/h (I think)

    There is a threshold at 5 Km/h which is easily observed.

    Best Regards.

     

     

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    Maxime Muller

    Bonjour,

    La trace n'est pas propre il y a des lignes droites qui n'ont rien à faire avec la randonnée, c'est pourquoi ça fait n'importe quoi.

    CDL

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