Land uses all Onedrive space

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

     

    Best regards

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    Neil Strong

    Ah! :-) Merci beaucoup Thierry!

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    Peter Bird

    This seems to move the maps and data files, but there remains a large number of elements in the OneDrive area.  Is it possible to load everything in a drive/folder that isn't in the OneDrive path?  OneDrive seems to object to some of the characters used in Land10, as well as taking up valuable OneDrive space.

    Is it possible to get Land10 to install all of its files on, say, the D drive?  Why does it default to OneDrive anyway?

    Any help gratefully received.

    Peter

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    The easiest way is to remove Land from your PC, then close the PC.

    Go to the Twonav website, load the Land demo version

    Install it on your PC and during the installation process be careful not to validate the installation on OneDrive.

    Land will ask you for your email and password and will automatically configure itself in the purchased version.

    For the installation path add the version index following TwoNav Land (TwoNav Land 1004).

    During the next updates proceed in the same way by specifying the Land index.

    Your versions will coexist, we remove the old ones with undelet then

    Best Regards

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    Peter Bird

    Thank you Thierry, I think I.did as you said, I uninstalled using Windows uninstall facility. I then deleted all the left over files in the One Drive folder. Switched off, waited then restarted the PC. Downloaded the demo version and installed but I wasn’t asked for the OneDrive user/password. It said it was going to install in the Programs folder on the C Drive. I wanted to install in the D drive and so I created a folder D:/TwoNav and gave that as the install folder. It then installed but Maps and Data was still in the OneDrive folder on the C drive. I then changed the location of the maps and data as explained above in your earlier comments. I then closed down Land and reopened it. I then deleted the files in OneDrive and reinstalled my purchased map. All seems to be working with my maps and routes where I’d expect them to be. Thank you for your guidance. If there’s likely to be any issues with the way I have installed Land perhaps you’d let me know. Thank you. Peter

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    I don't really understand what you're doing, your problem is related to the data space not to where the program is installed. Land occupies three spaces:

    • The program which is in c:/Program/TwoNav Land
    • A program data space which is in c:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land

    There is no reason or need to force these paths except perhaps to want to separate the successive installations by specifying the version index TwoNav Land -> TwoNavLand 1004 (for the latest version)

    Then there is the data space, where your usage data will be placed. This is the space that is in OneDrive for you because you have configured Window to put your data there. This is due to your window installation choices.

    So this is the space that you need to bring back to your hard drive d:/..../CompeGps/ (And in compeGps you need to have /data, /map/, /temp,....

    C:\Users\thier\Documents\CompeGPS, or  D:\....\CompeGPS, and in CompeGps thoses path

    Do not delete data on one drive but move this data in the same path in /CompeGps

    You have to open (with Notepad) C:\ProgramData\TwoNav Land 1004 and correct all references to one drive otherwise your data will be scattered

    You must intervene at the level of the Windows configuration to change your data space. Windows during its installation favors the use of OneDrive (€€€€€) this is where you must act.

    In addition, your backup gps.ini is always configured to one drive, there given what you have done I do not know where it is normally it is here: "C:\Users\thier\Documents\CompeGPS\backup\gps.ini". If Land restarts in backup I do not know in your case what will happen. So once you have corrected all the references to one drive in your gps.ini you must find the backup gps.ini and overwrite it with the gps.ini that you have just corrected. And always make the file paths/preferences homogeneous with your choices

    Good luck

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    Peter Bird

    Thank you Thierry, I have done this as you suggest and all seems well EXCEPT I am still getting temporary files in the OneDrive directory.  I have changed the line 'Temporal2*3=D:/OneDrive -XXXXXXX/Documents/CompeGPS/temp/' (OneDrive data is actually on Disk 'D' and the Land10 data is to be on Disk 'E') to the new location . I have deleted the CompeGPS on the One Drive space, but every time I open up Land10 a new folder is opened on the Open Drive space, with the Temp folder in there, and the gps.ini is over written with the Temporal back on the One Drive location.  Do you know where Land10 is picking this up from and how I can prevent it?

    Incidently, I have noticed that whilst the file locations are listed using the forward slash ('/') that for 'Data4*1=' uses the backslash ("\") - is that correct?

    Sorry about all this but I really want Land10 to work for me.  With the temp files being held on the OneDrive area I am getting repeated warnings from OneDrive that I have deleted a large number of files and asking do I really want to do this.

    Thank youo once again,  Peter.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    If Land uses One Drive, it is because you have left somewhere in one of the GPS.ini a line that refers to this folder /temp in onedrive.

    Close Land (Land must be closed when you do this, otherwise Land will erase all your corrections, you have to be very rigorous), correct all the lines of the gps.ini which is in .../ProgramData/... and the backup one in the data space /Ducument/compeGps/... or /OneDrive/...

    Find all the other gps.ini files on your PC and on ONE DRIVE either you delete them (Be careful not to delete the one in /programData), or you replace them with the one you corrected.

    If Land goes to ONE DRIVE it is:

    1. Either it starts as a backup on the gps.ini of the data space, so at your home it is in Onedrive. The next time you close it, all your corrections will be overwritten.
    2. Either there is a line pointing to one drive in a gps.ini and Land starts with this file.
    3. Either Land is open during your manipulations and at the next closing it will save the new GPS.ini (from data in RAM) with the data preceding your corrections, corrections that Land has not seen because it was open.

    If you had old versions of Land it is likely that there are GPS.ini files scattered everywhere either in the paths /TwoNav Land or /CompeGps.. If this is the case you have to clean all that, Land can start on an old version. Also check the gps.default especially those of  /Programdata sapce / Program sapce /CompeGps space

    Good luck.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

     

    Incidently, I have noticed that whilst the file locations are listed using the forward slash ('/') that for 'Data4*1=' uses the backslash ("\") - is that correct?

    Correct I don't know, but I noticed that at TwoNav it is recurrent in many files, I wrote to them about it but nothing changes.

     

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    Peter Bird

    Hi, I found that the 'Temp' folder did not exist in the E:/TwoNav/' folder and so I created an empty folder there.  This has helped, as the temp files now collect there.  I have also found a file called 'gps.default' in the 'Program Files/TwoNav Land' folder. This also had a line for 'Vuelos' that referenced the OneDrive folder and so I have changed this too.  I now have only the backup in the OneDrive folder but I can live with that.Peter.

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Add or create all this folder on E:/TwoNav.. As i wrote above !!!!!

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    Peter Bird

    Yes, I've done that but that hasn't stopped the backups appearing in the OneDrive/CompeGPS folder that I repeatedly delete and it recreates as Land10 shuts down. I've searched out all references to gps files (ini, and default) and made sure that they don't refer to the OneDrive folder, but still it creates a folder in the OneDrive documents folder.

    Just to be clear, I'm using Windows11 on a desktop PC.

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    Peter Bird

    There is no line in gps.ini to say where the backups go.  Is this as it should be?

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Gps.ini backup is in the path /backup of the Land data space, 

    For my Win11 Desktop pC it is here =>  C:\Users\thier\Documents\CompeGPS\backup 

    For your desktop i dont know ....

    OneDrive/CompeGPS\backup

    Or perhaps E:/TwoNav/CompeGPS\backup 

    May be..

     

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    Peter Bird

    Hi Thierry, yes, I have them in OneDrive/CompeGPS/backup, and this is why they are backing up to OneDrive.  Furthermore it seems that Windows11 (I'm not sure about earlier Window versions) loads new documents in the Documents folder, and Windows 11 sees the CompeGPS/backup folder as something to go in the Documents folder.

    I suspect this is as far as we can go in this fight with Windows11.  Maybe feedback to the CompeGPS development team may help, they can perhaps explicitly specify the location of the CompeGPS/backup folder which holds the gps.ini file.  Thanks for all your time in trying to get to the bottom of all this.  Peter

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello,

    View a copy of the log file when you closed Land:

    2024-08-15 08:33:14  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] MessageBoxGGPS: MessageBoxGGPS Voulez-vous vraiment quitter?
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] Clear_All_2: >>>>>>>>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] Reset_Navegacion: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] Clear_All_2: <<<<<<<<<<
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:16528] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadCacheGlobal
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] FormCloseQuery: <<<<<<<<<<
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] FormClose: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping routing threads...
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping fast processes...
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping nuvols thread...
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:4444] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadNuvols
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping TiempoReal thread...
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping countly queue thread...
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] [TELEMETRY] Stop: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:13832] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadFuncEventsQueue:StatusInformationEvents
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:17104] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadColaPost
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] [DISK] Guarda_Datos_Configuracion: C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/ --> C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] Copy: ok=1 . src=C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/gps.ini . dest=C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/gps.ini
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] Copia_Datos_Configuracion:      - C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/gps.ini --> C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/gps.ini
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:20808] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadFuncEventsQueue:filesDownloaderQueue
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:6544] [X] [THREAD] Run: connection received.
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:6544] [X] [THREAD] Run: acabar==true -> will exit loop
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:6544] [X] [THREAD] Run: out of loop
    2024-08-15 08:33:15  [pid:8204, thid:6544] [D] [THREAD] Execute: Stop: TThreadCompeAPI
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] ~TVisor_CompeGPS_Comun: Deleting fast processes...
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] ~TViewerController: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] ~TViewerBattery: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [X] ~TViewerOnlineServices: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] ~TViewerAlarms: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 08:33:16  [pid:8204, thid:15536] [I] [TELEMETRY] ~TViewerStatusReport: >>>pass>>>

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    Peter Bird

    Is this the file compegps.log that sits in the ProgramData folder?  If so I have nothing that resembles the particular text that you have enboldened, nor anything that has CompeGPS/backup when I search the file. 

    If I search for [THREAD] I get lots of lines with [THREAD] Start:  but non with 'Execute Stop'.  If I search for 'Execute' there is nothing found.  Is this the file that you have directed me to or is there another (I can't find another but perhaps it is hidden somewhere).

    When I open and then close Land10 the following appears on the log file (Bold is the close element I believe):

    2024-08-15 16:54:02  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] [THREAD] Start: TID: 5284 Name: TProcesosLentosCB
    2024-08-15 16:54:02  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] [THREAD] Start: TID: 13628 Name: TProcesosLentosCB
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] [THREAD] Start: TID: 27796 Name: TProcesosLentosCB
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping routing threads...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping fast processes...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping nuvols thread...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping TiempoReal thread...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] CloseRunningThreads: Stopping countly queue thread...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] ~TVisor_CompeGPS_Comun: Deleting fast processes...
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] ~TViewerAlarms: >>>pass>>>
    2024-08-15 16:55:05  [pid:9632, thid:32804] [I] [TELEMETRY] ~TViewerStatusReport: >>>pass>>>

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

    Hello, 

    As I told you earlier in this exchange, on your WIN 11 PC the Land data space is installed in OneDrive/CompeGps (One Drive is on a server it is the Microsoft Window Cloud).

    In principle, if you want to avoid using a Cloud the standard data space for Land / PC (whatever the version of Land) is c:/user/document/compegps/

    You installed it I don't know where, maybe here: D:/OneDrive -XXXXXXX/Documents/CompeGPS/temp/. You named a path with the same name as the Cloud (Nice confusion in perspective), because OneDrive is the Window Cloud, besides you must have at the bottom right of your screen a cloud => OneDrive.

    As a result I fear the worst.

    Nothing prevents you from letting Land use the standard space for its data c:/user/document/compegps/, and from defining elsewhere for your maps a specific path to specify in file/preferences.

    C:\Users\thier\Documents\CompeGPS

     

    MessageBoxGGPS: MessageBoxGGPS Voulez-vous vraiment quitter?

    [DISK] Guarda_Datos_Configuracion: C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/ --> C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/
    Copy: ok=1 . src=C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/gps.ini . dest=C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/gps.ini
    Copia_Datos_Configuracion:      - C:/ProgramData/TwoNav Land 1004/gps.ini --> C:/Users/thier/Documents/CompeGPS/backup/gps.ini
    Execute: Stop: TThreadFuncEventsQueue:filesDownloaderQueue

    Best regards

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    Thierry CHARLÈS

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